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Was The Sutherland Attacker Waging War on Christians?

by Christopher N. Malagisi

This past Sunday, Devin Kelley killed 27 people in a mass shooting at a church in Sutherland, Texas — our thoughts and prayers are with the victims. Kelley was an avowed atheist — was his horrific and brutal crime part of a larger war on Christians? Vote in our CBC reader poll!

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  1. Phillip S Fivgas

    So who has failed in all these shootings and all these hate-filled events? God or human-beings?…We can say that it has not changed God but will we keep saying it has changed our lives? How? Hate and shootings hasn’t stopped…Look at yourselves and READ THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE and plea with God for grace and mercy!

    November 7, 2017,10:12 am


  2. Phillip S Fivgas

    To vote on this question is preposterous. The “unregenerate”, those not “born-again” by the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ, cannot receive the things of God. “But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised (discerned).” (1 Corinthians 2:14) These humans, people, created beings, are “SINNERS” before a Holy, Righteous, and Perfect God. A God whose attributes include being ‘ETERNAL’, never created by anything. God has always existed and will always exist. God is ‘IMMUTABLE’, ‘UNCHANGING’. God is Righteous, Holy, and Perfect, yesterday, today, and forever. God is Spirit and Truth and God created everything from “nothing” (ex nihilo), for HIS PURPOSE, to Glorify Himself. There is no other “gods” before Him. Sin is outside of God. God has no sin and is Pure. Everything was created by God “perfect” and “good” but God in His Wisdom allowed “sin” to enter into creation. Thus, all humans, people, created beings, are BORN WITH SIN IN THEM AND LIVE WITH SIN IN THEM WHILE THEY EXIST (physically) HERE ON THIS EARTH, EVEN AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN CHANGED BY GOD (“born-again”) THROUGH HIS WORD AND BY HIS HOLY SPIRIT. God is ‘SUPERNATURAL’. Humans, people, created beings with ‘sin’ are ‘natural’, FULL OF SIN. They cannot understand that God controls all things and that He uses ‘sin’ to accomplish His purpose, TO GLORIFY HIMSELF. People, humans, created beings are not naturally ‘conservative’. They don’t naturally ‘love’ one another either. The ‘love’ of God is called ‘AGAPE’. AGAPE is the ‘SUPERNATURAL’ love of God. People, humans, created beings don’t have ‘AGAPE’ but all people, humans, created beings have “unrighteous hatred” towards all others, even towards God who created them. God is an angry God too. He hates “sin”…..People you have to read the most conservative book of all, the Christian Bible, and pray that God will change you and cause you to know Him and His purpose, and His revealed “will”. People you need to pray for the “forgiveness” of your ‘sin’ by the blood of Jesus Christ, God in the Flesh. This earth is not the Christians home. Our citizenship is in heaven and this earth is perishing….The question shouldn’t be, ‘Is there a war against Christians, those that are “like Christ”. It should be, “ARE YOU “BORN-AGAIN” BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST YOURSELF?” (Look at yourself first) This man was a murderer and an avowed one at that but look at all the people in this country killing “unborn” babies that are suppose to have protection against atheist, murderers, etc. Do you understand God’s purpose for all people of time? Do you want to lie to yourself and take on all “sin”, which ends in hell or cry out to the True and Living God, Jesus Christ. Atheist are human beings lying to themselves, they are full of “sin” and “hatred” towards God, and God’s Word says that they “have no excuse”. Jesus teaches, “If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of this world, BUT I CHOSE YOU OUT OF THE WORLD, because of this the world hates you.” (John 15:18-19) Forgive me people but this country, the United States of America, was raised up by God, using a few “sinners” who were “born-again” and also the “unregenerate”, who also stumbled through this “sin-filled” life of trials and difficulties, to do God’s will. To live on in “eternity” after physical death requires the IMPUTED RIGHTEOUSNESS OF CHRIST, which is not the “SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS” of “natural” human beings………Just REMEMBER THIS! “For it is written, ‘As I live, says the LORD, every knee shall bow to Me, and every tongue shall give praise to God.” This will be the constant in your UNDYING AND ETERNAL CONSCIENCE, after this temporary and physical existence here on this earth ends. Amen. soli Deo gloria!…..READ THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE.

    November 7, 2017,9:58 am


  3. Julie Wakley

    Although I answered “yes” to the question, it was only part of the reason for the attack. The man was a self-described atheist who had no qualms about opening fire on unarmed people, hoping that his ex in-laws would be part of the carnage. He was mentally ill and a lot of hate in his heart, which fueled the attack as well. God bless the two men who jumped into action, at the risk of their own lives, to ward off further death.

    November 7, 2017,8:59 am


  4. Johnnie McHan

    This was mentally sick, hate filled heart, brain washed individual who blamed everyone but himself!! He was ex-military because he was not fit. The guns, well, he would have gotten them however when he wanted them. The other criminal thugs in our society, including officials, make sure they supply each others’s needs. He intended to kill every Christian or else why innocent babies? Guns do not kill….thugs, criminals, terrorists, and mentally sickos do! Check out who he believed in!! There is the answer.

    November 7, 2017,8:05 am


  5. Robert

    To say the Obamas are Christians and the Trumps are not based on Tax returns of all things is sad, and to say because they died there blessed, That being true does not mean the attack was Justified. now for the Christian thing, Trump pastor Paula White: The president ‘100 percent is a Christian … a person of repentance’ and on the other hand, Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, “He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school.” Now with that said, Pray for the families of all those affected by these terrible actions. That is the main thing to think of.

    November 7, 2017,5:10 am


  6. Bill

    Vern Davis – You are misinformed.
    The Obamas attend church. Obama is a Christian. You can read it in his biographies. You can confirm it on his tax returns.

    Trump has no association with any church. He claims to have never asked God for forgiveness. No one can claim to be a Christian who has not asked for God’s Grace.

    Christianity is the dominant religion in the US.
    As for a war on Christianity:
    “Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
    for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.”
    Matthew 5:10

    November 7, 2017,1:20 am


  7. CARL

    John Lockwood, you sir have lost your ever loving liberal mind. You failed to see a good guy with a gun is what stopped the nonsense. If one of the parishioners had of had a weapon, it would have stopped a lot sooner. Your way of thinking is completely insane. Tell me how you are going to get all of the criminals to give up their guns. They are criminals, this is how they live. So, you take up all the good guys guns and the criminal comes to your house with a gun and says, I’m here to rape your 12 yr old daughter, and when he is through, he wants to do your wife, what are you gonna do, beg him not to do it, LOL, he is a criminal, he will tie you up and make you watch, laughing the whole time, because he knows you are unarmed and you don’t even have a weapon of any kind. He makes you watch while he bangs your wife, still laughing. Then he goes through your house(while you are pleading with him to stop) taking anything of yours he wants. He finds all your valuables, brings them to the room you’re in and let you look at them one more time before he goes out the door, but stops and decides to bang you just to say he screwed your whole liberal family. Now that you’re totally humiliated and thinking he is finally leaving, he decides to put a cap in your daughter and wife’s head, again while you watch and tells you that you have never seen him and to insure you get his drift, he puts a cap in each knee of yours. You cannot be mad at him, he is a criminal and has a gun, but you are a good guy without a gun and without a wife and without a daughter. Do you really think you would be able to live with yourself if something like this happened??? One thing is certain “The bad guys are not giving up their guns, no matter if you take every one else, you won’t get theirs”

    November 6, 2017,9:19 pm


  8. Laura Register

    It’s a war on Christians, but it is also a war on people. The Devil is running out of time and he is scared because he knows the plans that God has in store for him. So he is using people to do his dirty work for him they are his puppets and they don’t even know it.Whether anyone believes it or not, that doesn’t matter, the point is , is that anyone who has not made Jesus the Lord of their lives, well, use any example you want on all the bombings, shootings, or what happened in New York last week, you never know what will happen on any day, and if something does happen to you, you would want to be prepared and have your life right with God, because there is an after life and YES, Heaven and Hell are both real! My prayers are with everyone that was a victim and their families and friends and also for the man involved for his soul.

    November 6, 2017,9:08 pm


  9. Marilyn

    It was a domestic dispute between the gunman and his second wife.

    November 6, 2017,6:07 pm


  10. Raymond Mangin

    IF I CAN’T “YEA” OR “NAY” A COMMENT: YOU’RE WASTING MY TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    November 6, 2017,5:49 pm


  11. Vern Davis

    Dear Stella poor Brenda is one of those screwed up Liberals with brains running on empty. They either use fowl language or say we are Racist. that is the extent of their word power.

    November 6, 2017,5:43 pm


  12. John Lockwood

    Only an illiterate mentally defective idiot would look at the carnage caused in Texas and elsewhere, and then play the victim. The NRA and selfish, entitled gun fondlers caused this. The real terrorists are those opposing any and all sensible gun laws and safety measures. And the POS calling itself “president,’ is the biggest traitor, POS, thief and predator around. Traitors are executed, and until they are lined up against the wall, MAGA will never happen.

    November 6, 2017,5:41 pm


  13. Vern Davis

    And dear Brenda the Hat you sound like the other wackos, Trump did not ease the gun laws for the mentally ill, he has been saying something needs to be done about the mentally ill getting guns. Below is Trump’s comment.
    “I think that mental health is your problem here. Based on preliminary reports, a very deranged individual, a lot of problems for a long period of time. But this isn’t a guns situation.”

    November 6, 2017,5:39 pm


  14. Vern Davis

    Dear Bill what country have you been living in? Ever since Obama took over there has been a war on Christiany. Trump is trying to stop it, but the Liberals want Christians wiped out, and they have a strong foot hold because of the big “O”.

    November 6, 2017,5:34 pm


  15. Brenda Hatfield

    Nope, StillaBeliever, I cannot. And that’s who did that, just an ex with a gun who was nuts, and the government knew it, and still let him keep his gun. When trump says mental illness is what caused this, he’s right, BECAUSE HE IS THE ONE WHO EASED THE GUN LAWS FOR THE MENTALLY ILL. AK-15 NEED TO GO.

    November 6, 2017,4:55 pm


  16. Bill

    Latest reports are that his mother-in-law attends that church. This was a domestic dispute.

    Real question should be how did he obtain his weapon, and how that could have been prevented.

    There is no war on Christians in this country.

    November 6, 2017,4:55 pm


  17. StillaBeliever

    Brenda, can you say ANYTHING without an F-bomb?

    November 6, 2017,4:37 pm


  18. Brenda Hatfield

    It was a FUCKED UP man after his ex and he should never have had a gun.

    November 6, 2017,4:04 pm

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